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The key words in the above quote are these, “…would be a break with our TRADITIONS and VALUES as a nation…” (emphasis added).

Really? Traditions and values? That’s all you’re running up against, here? Just some traditions of how we’ve been conducting the operation of this country? Just some values? Nothing serious. Not anything, really, that can’t be dealt with by passing a bill or signing an Executive Order.

NO!

This is the Constitution! This is the LAW. This is not merely “tradition.” This is the founding document of our country, the one that acknowledges that our rights come NOT from government (which WE created), but from our Creator (God, for those who need it spelled out), by virtue of our birth. We have these rights exclusive of any government. What the Constitution does is GUARANTEE those rights (that we already possess). They are “inalienable.” That means that they can’t be taken away. No matter how many illegal (unconstitutional) laws this federal government passes, WE THE PEOPLE are sovereign OVER our government, which is the servant of the PEOPLE (not the other way around). Anyone attempting to arrest or detain us without a proper and legal warrant is themselves the “enemy combatant,” and should be treated as such. Obama has (once more) violated his Oath of Office, violated the Constitution, and committed treason against this country, as did every Senator and Representative who voted for this “Obamination.” The states should ignore this “law” (nullification). Everyone who voted to pass this bill, and the president who signed it should all be voted out at the next election, and charges should be strongly considered against them.

We are way past the point of the grievances which prompted the colonists to separate from England and fight the Revolutionary War for THEIR freedom. Will we honor them by jealously guarding and keeping alive the flame of Liberty for which they paid so dear a price to leave to their posterity, or will we march meekly into slavery?

I say, NOT ON MY WATCH!!!

“The administration also pushed Congress to change a provision that would have denied U.S. citizens suspected of terrorism the right to trial and could have subjected them to indefinite detention. Lawmakers eventually dropped the military custody requirement for U.S. citizens or lawful U.S. residents.”

Fox News
December 31, 2012

Who writes this stuff? The bill does not authorize detention of US Citizens. READ THE BILL, YOU IDIOTS. It states clearly, if not buried deep therein, that the provisions for detention do not apply to US Citizens or permanent residents, and it doesn’t even apply in the USA. Funny, but you’d expect a news organization to have looked over the bill before they write this stuff.

Posted by: Alan | January 1, 2012, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

You might even expect American citizens to read it and research it before going into hysterics and implying violence, etc. Totally whacked out.

“Nothing (this bill) affects U.S. citizens,” Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-Texas) said this month. “The provisions in this bill … are small steps towards having this Congress back in detention decisions. I think it is the right small step.”

To all: Please spend less time “reacting” to headlines that are intended to draw attention and more time reading (and comprehending) the actual final piece of legislation. H.R. 1540 states within Subtitle “D”, Subtitle D–Counterterrorism
SEC. 1021. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE.

that: includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons (as defined in subsection (b)) pending disposition under the law of war.
(b) Covered Persons- A covered person under this section is any person as follows:
(1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks.
(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.
(c) Disposition Under Law of War- The disposition of a person under the law of war as described in subsection (a) may include the following:
(1) Detention under the law of war without trial until the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force.
(2) Trial under chapter 47A of title 10, United States Code (as amended by the Military Commissions Act of 2009 (title XVIII of Public Law 111-84)).
(3) Transfer for trial by an alternative court or competent tribunal having lawful jurisdiction.
(4) Transfer to the custody or control of the person’s country of origin, any other foreign country, or any other foreign entity.

This is astounding in its implications. The mere allegation of a belligerent act, or having “aided” the interests of Al-Qaeda is enough to hold an American citizen incommunicado and without review, over-site or trial (!) until ‘The end of hostilities.”

The treasonous danger here is not from Al-Qaeda supporters, but from our government that has clearly “suspended” the Constitution out of senseless, feigned, necessity.

I voted for Bush twice and holding my nose I voted for McCain. How stupid I was! I did not become aware of what Ron Paul was all about until after the 2008 Presidential Elections. I used to be a Neocon warmonger. Ron Paul has cured my apathy and woke me up to see the light.

Ron Paul for POTUS 2012 to restore America. to hell with the rest of the Traitorous Republorats and Democan’s. Both party’s are guilty of Treason. John McCain and Carl Levin can go to Hell!

To “Jim” and others that claim this bill does not apply to American Citizens: YOU ARE CLEARLY WRONG. You are reading from Section 1022 (which has NO IMPACT on Section 1021.) This does not cover its preceding section, 1021.

Section 1022 was modified in the enrolled bill to distract the citizenry into misunderstanding legislative sectional provisioning. The devil is within the details of Section 1021. This does, in fact, grant the authority, by mere allegation, for unlimited detainment and even rendition of U.S. Citizenry to foreign countries!

Section 1021(c) (4) Transfer to the custody or control of the person’s country of origin, any other foreign country, or any other foreign entity.

(Further from the protections of our Constitution. ) Our government clearly is out of control.